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0:00 we find it necessary we know we will win
0:07 we have confidence in the victory
0:12 of good over evil
0:24 fight the Real Enemy
0:27 CBC: how were you treated when you said fight the real enemy and you ripped up that picture of the Pope how were you treated after
0:32 you know I don’t really remember I think there was a kind of a mixed reaction to be honest you know I mean I didn’t you know I I’m an intelligent
0:40 woman I I knew there would be an aftermath you know I didn’t expect it you know I was going to be carried around in a chair and you know have
0:48 champagne pour it all over or anything you know so you know I don’t really remember a lot but obviously there was mixed feelings
0:55 you know there was some were supportive and some were not supportive and I understood those that weren’t because we in Ireland knew about this abuse issue
1:04 in 1987 which reminds me another important point that you must make to anyone you’re communicating with on this matter
1:11 um and which again proves the Pope’s letter to be dishonest the Irish Church took out an insurance policy in 1987
1:19 against to protect them against claims they foresaw would be being brought by victims they then doubt as a matter of record it’s in the ferns report they
1:27 then sat back until 1994 and waited for the [ __ ] that hit the firm so I’m just trying my phone over um so look we knew in Ireland 10 years
1:36 before anyone in America or Canada knew so I understand that at the time I made that gesture it was an abhorrent idea in
1:43 America to suggest that a priest could be sexually even molesting a child so I don’t have any you know bad feelings or anything about completely understand why
1:50 people found their own abhorrent idea you know
1:53 CBC: but do you feel somewhat Vindicated today
1:56 I don’t think in those kind of terms you
1:59 know to me this isn’t about me or you or anybody else it’s about the victims uh and I’m always wondering you know the
2:06 conversations with them should you call them victims I’m a Survivor of very severe child abuse myself not clerical
2:13 abuse but very severe abuse and I always liked to refer to myself as a Survivor I don’t like to think I’m a victim but
2:21 when I’ve been speaking with the Survivor groups they’ve asked actually no they said we don’t want to be called victims or survivors because some of us didn’t actually make it some of these
2:29 kids died in industrial schools from violence some of them killed themselves later after being brutally raped and not being believed by their families not
2:37 being believed by the church so I think it’s not about do I feel Vindicated or or you or me or anybody
2:44 else it’s about these poor children who actually went through the violence and horror that we can’t even begin to imagine and if we care actually about it
2:52 we should make it our business to study what did they go through